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Thanx for your contribution :) Just added 2 categories  - [[User:Daniel K. Schneider|Daniel K. Schneider]] 14:06, 21 November 2007 (MET)
Thanx for your contribution :) Just added 2 categories  - [[User:Daniel K. Schneider|Daniel K. Schneider]] 14:06, 21 November 2007 (MET)
== Cybergogy = educating computers -- [[User:Calmansi|Claude Almansi]] 23:27, 12 May 2012 (CEST) -- [[User:Calmansi|Claude Almansi]] 23:27, 12 May 2012 (CEST) ==
If pedagogy means educating children and andragogy - in the sexist jargon of 19th century educational science - means educating men, then "cybergogy" means educating computers, or digital things, and not educating with them.
The Firefox spell-checker balks at both andragogy and cybergogy. Couldn't you education scientists show as much sense as this piece of software, please?
===Re: Cybergogy = educating computers -- [[User:Calmansi|Claude Almansi]] 23:27, 12 May 2012 (CEST) -- [[User:Daniel K. Schneider|Daniel K. Schneider]] 17:24, 13 May 2012 (CEST)===
Well you should contact the inventors of this term. Also, I do understand that people want to give names to things they invent. Not everyone is familiar with Greek roots of a word, where the 2nd part of the word refers to "guiding". Finally, the fact that a spell-checker balks at words doesn't mean anything. In "free languages" such as German or English that are not state controlled like French, new words are invented all the time, often by composition. If someone by mistake believe that "gogy" refers to education then the new term makes sense, since in English you can add two words and the first is often a qualifier of the second, like "e-learning" which is also very problematic IMHO. I have seen much worse, e.g. "real university units" that call themselves "virtual institute of learning".
Oh a last comment: "Education scientists" do not exist. You got "instructional designers", "educational technologists", "didacticians" (in France), educational psychologists, and may more and they all think very differently and usually don't talk to each other...

Latest revision as of 16:24, 13 May 2012

Thanx for your contribution :) Just added 2 categories - Daniel K. Schneider 14:06, 21 November 2007 (MET)

Cybergogy = educating computers -- Claude Almansi 23:27, 12 May 2012 (CEST) -- Claude Almansi 23:27, 12 May 2012 (CEST)

If pedagogy means educating children and andragogy - in the sexist jargon of 19th century educational science - means educating men, then "cybergogy" means educating computers, or digital things, and not educating with them. The Firefox spell-checker balks at both andragogy and cybergogy. Couldn't you education scientists show as much sense as this piece of software, please?

Re: Cybergogy = educating computers -- Claude Almansi 23:27, 12 May 2012 (CEST) -- Daniel K. Schneider 17:24, 13 May 2012 (CEST)

Well you should contact the inventors of this term. Also, I do understand that people want to give names to things they invent. Not everyone is familiar with Greek roots of a word, where the 2nd part of the word refers to "guiding". Finally, the fact that a spell-checker balks at words doesn't mean anything. In "free languages" such as German or English that are not state controlled like French, new words are invented all the time, often by composition. If someone by mistake believe that "gogy" refers to education then the new term makes sense, since in English you can add two words and the first is often a qualifier of the second, like "e-learning" which is also very problematic IMHO. I have seen much worse, e.g. "real university units" that call themselves "virtual institute of learning".

Oh a last comment: "Education scientists" do not exist. You got "instructional designers", "educational technologists", "didacticians" (in France), educational psychologists, and may more and they all think very differently and usually don't talk to each other...