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== Introduction ==
== Introduction ==


Modular castle kit - Lego compatible is a an extension to [[doblo factory]] to create various playmobile-like Duplo and Lego compatible structures.
Modular castle kit - Lego-compatible is a an extension to [[doblo factory]] to create various playmobile-like Duplo- and Lego-compatible structures. Note: Doblos are neither Legos nor Duplos but are somewhat compatible. You can print just one, several or all components and then play at castle construction, mixing in your own Lego. You can hook together modules like in the picture used to advertise this thing (use simple Lego bricks as connectors) or you can create much wilder "mix with any Lego" structures or you could create a village with different buildings. Some modules are designed to be stacked on top of each other.


Testing the new [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StlHandler Extension:StlHandler]:
[[file:castle-kit-sample.png|800px|none|thumb|Castle kit sample]]


Simple file
Example file: [[File:tower.stl|600px]]


[[File:tower.stl]]
There are three types of components:  
# with easy to print base plate,
# with Lego-compatible base plate (stackable)
# lighter" stackable versions (better vertical fit, faster print)


File with dimensions
I printed most, but not all of the modules. However, I then also made some minor changes to most of the printed ones and there still may be a few minor glitches. Please examine a thing before you print it.


[[File:tower.stl|600px]]
You can either print Lego or Duplo compatibles. The Duplo-compatibles structures take about six times as much to print as you can imagine easily if you look the the following picture


File with frame
[[file:Simplify3D-tower_round_square.png|800px|none|thumb|Castle structure with flat bottom (tower_round_square)]]


[[File:tower.stl|frame|none|Tower]]
== Use ==
 
As of version 2.4 of DobloFactory (sept 2019), castle structures are included in the castle-kit subdirectory.
 
To generate a castle structure
* open file <code> castle-kit/castle_generation.scad </code>
* Verify the parameters: SCALE, LATTICE_TYPE and SHAVE
* uncomment the model you want.
 
'''Calibration'''
 
Filament 3D printers always have trouble printing lego-compatibles. The result depends on several factors, e.g.
* Model dimensions
* Slicer mistakes and "help"
* Slicer settings
* Printer characteristics
 
Typically, walls are larger than they should be (in particular if you use Cura who by default makes walls way to fat). In addition the blocks are to wide. This is due to FDM printing logic.
 
Test:
* Comment the module that is currently being used
* uncomment line <code>// color ("orange") calibration();</code>
* Print it, making sure that your slicer does not attempt to fatten any walls.
 
Adjust either code or slicer settings or both:
* You may have to cheat and parametrize doblo factory with wrong dimensions. Copy file <code> lib/doblo-params.scad </code>, edit and include it in <code>doblo-factory.scad</code> in place of the existing doblo-params* file.
* Make very sure that your slicer does not attempt to create fatter walls
* Consider using the SHAVE parameter that can shave some microns from a perfectly good initial model
 
== STL optimization ==
 
Objects should be printable as is. However you could do better
* Use a mesh repair tool
* Make the objects solid, i.e. remove all internal objects
 
'''Using Autodesk Meshmixer'''
* Left Panel -> Edit -> Make Solid
: Solid type = Sharp Ede Preserve  (this is an important setting !!)
: Cell sizes = 0.5mm (more or less, depending on you layer settings).
 
* Before exporting, remove the old model (see the Object Browser)
 
== Most important slicer and printer settings ==
 
The following settings are for PLA. However, PLAs can be quite different. In particular, optimal temperature is not the same. Some gets "fluid" faster than other.
 
* Layer size: 0.25mm layers or larger (else print time becomes really high)
* Infill: 20 to 25% infill (less with a stronger plastic)
* Temperature: Plastic a bit warmer than usual, e.g. 205 to 210 percent for standard PLA (this could help avoiding print aborts of long prints)
* Ventilator: between 25 and 75%. Less may be better since the nozzle can slice through warm plastic (as opposed to rip off a model)
* ''No'' support, but using a brim (skirt on the outside only) is a very good idea since Blocks don't have a large surface for sticking
* Speed: Between 10 and 15mm/s for the first layer, medium to high speed for other layers. Yes, the '''first layer''' must be printed at least four times slower than typical speed.
* Seam position: should be random, else the nibbles underneath will have gaps.
* Top and bottom layers: At least three solid layers on top, four is safer
* Infill/perimeter overlap: 50% for Lego compatibles and maybe higher for Duplo compatibles. Else the top floor may fall down.
* Wall thickness: At least 2 walls. Try multiples of your extrusions width. Some slicers, e.g. Cura allow defining mm's.
* Retraction: Off (since that is safer for longer prints)
 
To speed things up (< day for a piece):
* 0.3mm layers and 4500 mm/min (75 mm/sec) with a 0.35mm or 0.4mm nozzle
* 0.56 layers with a 0.7 nozzle works rather well for Duplo compatibles. Use 2 walls. Speed = 40, 15 for outer perimeters and 10 for the first layer. Brims (skirts) are mandatory. Temperature a bit higher than usual. E.g. 210 for "standard" PLA.
* 0.7 layers with a 0.7 nozzle works soft of for Duplo compatibles. However, you will have to cope with the printer complaining about filament flow and/or problems related to the nozzle bumping into obstacles (turn off the fan when printing flat surfaces)
 
'''Model Height warning'''
 
* Duplo-compatible towers may be taller than your printer can handle. Make sure to check first (the best way is enter the right information about your printer in your slicer).
* Typical tower height for duplo-compatibles is about 20cm
 
'''Time warning'''
* Duplo-compatible towers take more than 36 hours to print with 2.5mm layers. About 13-14 hours with 0.56mm layers (since print speed has to be lower it's not 25%).
* A lego-compatible tower takes about 6 to 8 hours with 2.5mm layers. Less than half with 0.56 layers.
 
<gallery widths=400px heights=400px>
file:tower round square-2.jpg|The morning after (~15h later,less than 50%)
file:Tower round square-1.jpg|The evening after (~25h later, 73% done)
</gallery>
 
'''Collision warning'''
 
* Around 50 to 60% into the print the nozzle may try to rip off the model, since the prints become a bit difficult when beams join. Stick around and when you hear a noise, stop the printer, remove disturbing excess material, home X and home Y, then restart....
* Also, it is a good idea to use little ventilation, at least when doing first layers of overhangs and ceilings.
 
== Remarks ==
 
This page includes links to STL files that are displayed with the experimental [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StlHandler Extension:StlHandler]:
 
Make sure that the first layer sticks well, in particular when printing Lego-compatible bases (nibbles underneath). A few things to to:
* Make your first layer 125-150% or something that is equivalent. Most platforms are uneven (0.05mm waves do have an impact) and you will have to compensate for that.
* Add glue to the platform (e.g. Pritt extra strong) or hairspray
* Add 10 degs or more to standard printing temperature, e.g. PLA at 205
* Move the print head closer to the platform, e.g. for my self-calibrating printer I add this to the end of the start code: G1 Z-.05 F3000 or sometimes G1 Z-.1 F3000. On a non calibrating printer, place two sheets of paper on the bed and make sure that the print head can move the upper sheet in every position, but without scratching.
* You could use a raft for the modules that have 2x2 Lego feet, but removing these is a pain...
 
Speed:
* Go very slowly for the first layer (about 15% of your normal speed).
* Go slowly for the second layer (if your slicer allows)
* Medium speed for the rest, e.g. 50mm/s or faster
 
Shells and layers:
* 3 shells. '''However''' your slicer should allow smaller walls for the Lego walls and nibbles underneath. E.g. you got to tick <code>Print thin walls</code> in Cura. Some slicers, e.g. Simplify3D does a fairly good job, with others, e.g. Cura, you will have to fight....
* 4 top layers (3 also can do)
* 3 or 4 bottom layers.
 
Rafts and support
* In principle, you do not need any form of support structure. Getting non-solvable plastic sticks out of Lego bases is too much of a pain... All important angles are steep enough and don't require wasting plastic inside of the towers.
* However, we recommend printing the wizard tower on Lego feet with a raft (see one of the attached pictures). Also, make sure that Z dimension of your printer can handle these small and long towers.
 
Tune your settings with the included standard 4x2 calibration brick.
 
One lego-compatible tower takes about 6 hours to print with these settings. I do not recommend printing with lower resolution because wait will be longer. If you print modules with a base plate, you can easily print 4 lego-compatible towers at the same time, in about a day. A duplo compatible tower takes over a day to print.
 
Final advice
* Avoid printing with warping plastic (e.g. ABS) or PLA that has lots of paint inside (it may warp and not stick)
* If you print pieces with Lego feet or bases, you really must make sure that the first layer sticks well. Best strategies are (a) calibrating the platform (b) 150 layer thickness (c) less than 10mm/s. After the third layer you can go much faster.
* Beginners could start printing towers that have flat bottoms.
 
== History ==
 
I am not much of a 3D modeler and do not spend much time on it. My design goal was to create something that helps kid's imagination and constructive mind and that is (fairly) easy to print. The first version (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2106) was created in 2012 using a first version of the Doblo Factory code. I used this library to create several other things, e.g. the thesis project management kit published as (thing:33001)
 
In 2012/13, Daniel M. Taub refactored the Doblo code (great work) and added some extra functionality. In 2013/2015 I made some minor modifications to it, but I never got the hang of github :(
 
In 2018, I finally decided improving a bit both Doblo Factory and this Lego kit since I noticed that it is still popular....


== Download ==
== Download ==


* V1.x: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:31284
* V1.x: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:31284
* V2: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2141175 and http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/3dprinting/doblo-factory/
* V2: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2141175 (very likely outdated and blocked as of October 2019, probably because I made some careless use of the word "Lego")
* V2.x: http://tecfa.unige.ch/guides/3dprinting/doblo-factory/ (take the most recent version)


[[category:3D printing]]
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[[category:LEGO]]

Latest revision as of 13:53, 10 September 2021

Draft

Introduction

Modular castle kit - Lego-compatible is a an extension to doblo factory to create various playmobile-like Duplo- and Lego-compatible structures. Note: Doblos are neither Legos nor Duplos but are somewhat compatible. You can print just one, several or all components and then play at castle construction, mixing in your own Lego. You can hook together modules like in the picture used to advertise this thing (use simple Lego bricks as connectors) or you can create much wilder "mix with any Lego" structures or you could create a village with different buildings. Some modules are designed to be stacked on top of each other.

Castle kit sample

Example file: https://edutechwiki.unige.ch/mediawiki/images/0/03/Tower.stl

There are three types of components:

  1. with easy to print base plate,
  2. with Lego-compatible base plate (stackable)
  3. lighter" stackable versions (better vertical fit, faster print)

I printed most, but not all of the modules. However, I then also made some minor changes to most of the printed ones and there still may be a few minor glitches. Please examine a thing before you print it.

You can either print Lego or Duplo compatibles. The Duplo-compatibles structures take about six times as much to print as you can imagine easily if you look the the following picture

Castle structure with flat bottom (tower_round_square)

Use

As of version 2.4 of DobloFactory (sept 2019), castle structures are included in the castle-kit subdirectory.

To generate a castle structure

  • open file castle-kit/castle_generation.scad
  • Verify the parameters: SCALE, LATTICE_TYPE and SHAVE
  • uncomment the model you want.

Calibration

Filament 3D printers always have trouble printing lego-compatibles. The result depends on several factors, e.g.

  • Model dimensions
  • Slicer mistakes and "help"
  • Slicer settings
  • Printer characteristics

Typically, walls are larger than they should be (in particular if you use Cura who by default makes walls way to fat). In addition the blocks are to wide. This is due to FDM printing logic.

Test:

  • Comment the module that is currently being used
  • uncomment line // color ("orange") calibration();
  • Print it, making sure that your slicer does not attempt to fatten any walls.

Adjust either code or slicer settings or both:

  • You may have to cheat and parametrize doblo factory with wrong dimensions. Copy file lib/doblo-params.scad , edit and include it in doblo-factory.scad in place of the existing doblo-params* file.
  • Make very sure that your slicer does not attempt to create fatter walls
  • Consider using the SHAVE parameter that can shave some microns from a perfectly good initial model

STL optimization

Objects should be printable as is. However you could do better

  • Use a mesh repair tool
  • Make the objects solid, i.e. remove all internal objects

Using Autodesk Meshmixer

  • Left Panel -> Edit -> Make Solid
Solid type = Sharp Ede Preserve (this is an important setting !!)
Cell sizes = 0.5mm (more or less, depending on you layer settings).
  • Before exporting, remove the old model (see the Object Browser)

Most important slicer and printer settings

The following settings are for PLA. However, PLAs can be quite different. In particular, optimal temperature is not the same. Some gets "fluid" faster than other.

  • Layer size: 0.25mm layers or larger (else print time becomes really high)
  • Infill: 20 to 25% infill (less with a stronger plastic)
  • Temperature: Plastic a bit warmer than usual, e.g. 205 to 210 percent for standard PLA (this could help avoiding print aborts of long prints)
  • Ventilator: between 25 and 75%. Less may be better since the nozzle can slice through warm plastic (as opposed to rip off a model)
  • No support, but using a brim (skirt on the outside only) is a very good idea since Blocks don't have a large surface for sticking
  • Speed: Between 10 and 15mm/s for the first layer, medium to high speed for other layers. Yes, the first layer must be printed at least four times slower than typical speed.
  • Seam position: should be random, else the nibbles underneath will have gaps.
  • Top and bottom layers: At least three solid layers on top, four is safer
  • Infill/perimeter overlap: 50% for Lego compatibles and maybe higher for Duplo compatibles. Else the top floor may fall down.
  • Wall thickness: At least 2 walls. Try multiples of your extrusions width. Some slicers, e.g. Cura allow defining mm's.
  • Retraction: Off (since that is safer for longer prints)

To speed things up (< day for a piece):

  • 0.3mm layers and 4500 mm/min (75 mm/sec) with a 0.35mm or 0.4mm nozzle
  • 0.56 layers with a 0.7 nozzle works rather well for Duplo compatibles. Use 2 walls. Speed = 40, 15 for outer perimeters and 10 for the first layer. Brims (skirts) are mandatory. Temperature a bit higher than usual. E.g. 210 for "standard" PLA.
  • 0.7 layers with a 0.7 nozzle works soft of for Duplo compatibles. However, you will have to cope with the printer complaining about filament flow and/or problems related to the nozzle bumping into obstacles (turn off the fan when printing flat surfaces)

Model Height warning

  • Duplo-compatible towers may be taller than your printer can handle. Make sure to check first (the best way is enter the right information about your printer in your slicer).
  • Typical tower height for duplo-compatibles is about 20cm

Time warning

  • Duplo-compatible towers take more than 36 hours to print with 2.5mm layers. About 13-14 hours with 0.56mm layers (since print speed has to be lower it's not 25%).
  • A lego-compatible tower takes about 6 to 8 hours with 2.5mm layers. Less than half with 0.56 layers.

Collision warning

  • Around 50 to 60% into the print the nozzle may try to rip off the model, since the prints become a bit difficult when beams join. Stick around and when you hear a noise, stop the printer, remove disturbing excess material, home X and home Y, then restart....
  • Also, it is a good idea to use little ventilation, at least when doing first layers of overhangs and ceilings.

Remarks

This page includes links to STL files that are displayed with the experimental Extension:StlHandler:

Make sure that the first layer sticks well, in particular when printing Lego-compatible bases (nibbles underneath). A few things to to:

  • Make your first layer 125-150% or something that is equivalent. Most platforms are uneven (0.05mm waves do have an impact) and you will have to compensate for that.
  • Add glue to the platform (e.g. Pritt extra strong) or hairspray
  • Add 10 degs or more to standard printing temperature, e.g. PLA at 205
  • Move the print head closer to the platform, e.g. for my self-calibrating printer I add this to the end of the start code: G1 Z-.05 F3000 or sometimes G1 Z-.1 F3000. On a non calibrating printer, place two sheets of paper on the bed and make sure that the print head can move the upper sheet in every position, but without scratching.
  • You could use a raft for the modules that have 2x2 Lego feet, but removing these is a pain...

Speed:

  • Go very slowly for the first layer (about 15% of your normal speed).
  • Go slowly for the second layer (if your slicer allows)
  • Medium speed for the rest, e.g. 50mm/s or faster

Shells and layers:

  • 3 shells. However your slicer should allow smaller walls for the Lego walls and nibbles underneath. E.g. you got to tick Print thin walls in Cura. Some slicers, e.g. Simplify3D does a fairly good job, with others, e.g. Cura, you will have to fight....
  • 4 top layers (3 also can do)
  • 3 or 4 bottom layers.

Rafts and support

  • In principle, you do not need any form of support structure. Getting non-solvable plastic sticks out of Lego bases is too much of a pain... All important angles are steep enough and don't require wasting plastic inside of the towers.
  • However, we recommend printing the wizard tower on Lego feet with a raft (see one of the attached pictures). Also, make sure that Z dimension of your printer can handle these small and long towers.

Tune your settings with the included standard 4x2 calibration brick.

One lego-compatible tower takes about 6 hours to print with these settings. I do not recommend printing with lower resolution because wait will be longer. If you print modules with a base plate, you can easily print 4 lego-compatible towers at the same time, in about a day. A duplo compatible tower takes over a day to print.

Final advice

  • Avoid printing with warping plastic (e.g. ABS) or PLA that has lots of paint inside (it may warp and not stick)
  • If you print pieces with Lego feet or bases, you really must make sure that the first layer sticks well. Best strategies are (a) calibrating the platform (b) 150 layer thickness (c) less than 10mm/s. After the third layer you can go much faster.
  • Beginners could start printing towers that have flat bottoms.

History

I am not much of a 3D modeler and do not spend much time on it. My design goal was to create something that helps kid's imagination and constructive mind and that is (fairly) easy to print. The first version (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2106) was created in 2012 using a first version of the Doblo Factory code. I used this library to create several other things, e.g. the thesis project management kit published as (thing:33001)

In 2012/13, Daniel M. Taub refactored the Doblo code (great work) and added some extra functionality. In 2013/2015 I made some minor modifications to it, but I never got the hang of github :(

In 2018, I finally decided improving a bit both Doblo Factory and this Lego kit since I noticed that it is still popular....

Download